Re: frysk-core/frysk/proc ChangeLog IsaIA32.java I ...

[Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon at redhat dot com>]

Andrew Cagney wrote:
> Mark,
>
> These changes affect three people directly: me, you and phil.  Phil 
> and I want this; and for you, it is cosmetic. Why are you so resistant 
> to what you yourself recognize has no effect on the code you work on?

I've been caught up in deliverables so I have not been really paying 
attention to this thread, perhaps as much as I should have. Apologies 
for that. I think there are several issues caught up here, and they are 
getting confused as one.

First I do not care about what the name is. It's not important to me. 
dead and live, proc and corefile, pink or blue, vanilla or strawberry it 
is something that is fluid and can change now and in the future. That 
can be taken as complicit agreement of disagreement. I just don't have 
strong feelings here.

However, I think the larger picture here, and I think is lost in the 
"change over discussion" trend, is that the current proc model is pretty 
faulty in some of its assumptions and really needs refactoring. For the 
last six months I've been working on tweaking this and that so that 
Proc/Task/Host is not live process specific. So in the longer to mid 
term there really needs to be a rethink of that model.. Right now,  
Andrew, Mark and myself are the main people twiddling the bits here, I 
think we all have our own strong ideas on how this should work. I think 
this thread has spawned because these ideas are not reconciled. In the 
debate of this thread, and myself just ignoring it for various reasons, 
I think there is a plain and clear need for a roundtable I'd hazard a 
guess we agree more than we disagree, and it just needs to be thrashed 
out. However we all have our deadlines, and for one reason or another 
this design discussion has slipped through the cracks, and people have 
moved forward with their ideas. I'm also guilty of not discussing a lot 
of my changes.

We should table a discussion on the whys and the why nots soon.

Regards

Phil