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Bug#: 333   Hardware:   Reporter: Roland McGrath <roland@gnu.org>
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Description:   Last confirmed: 0000-00-00 00:00 Opened: 2004-08-16 20:38
This is a placeholder bug; other bugs are marked as duplicates of this bug when
they are improper reports about problems compiling glibc.  If you try to compile
glibc yourself and have build errors or test case failures you do not
understand, then do not report them in bugzilla.  The developers do builds and
make check runs on a regular basis, and if there is any real problem they will
notice it and fix it quickly.  It is much more likely that there is something
amiss in your build environment or in how you have gone about trying to
configure and build glibc.  Building glibc properly is a complex operation with
many particular dependencies.  If you insist on doing it yourself, you will have
to investigate your issues and resolve them yourself.  If you really know what
you are doing and find a real problem, then you will be able to file a specific
bug report with enough detailed information that we will be able to look into
the issue.  If your bug got marked as a duplicate of this bug, then it was not
sufficient and you need to look into your problem yourself.

We appreciate efforts to test glibc, but doing so usefully is somewhat
difficult.  Just trying it without understanding glibc development in detail,
and reporting some test failures, is not a helpful thing to do at all.  If you
are experienced in glibc development, then the best way to help with testing is
to test the binary packages made by your operating system distributor and report
issues to that distributor.  Never report issues with binary packages to this
bugzilla database.

------- Additional Comment #1 From Roland McGrath 2004-08-16 20:40 -------
This placeholder bug is closed and given the alias "bogus-build".
Inappropriate user reports will be marked as dups of this bug.

------- Additional Comment #2 From Roland McGrath 2004-08-16 20:41 -------
*** Bug 331 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #3 From Ulrich Drepper 2004-08-18 19:42 -------
*** Bug 328 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #4 From Ulrich Drepper 2004-09-12 19:28 -------
*** Bug 344 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #5 From Ulrich Drepper 2004-09-12 19:29 -------
*** Bug 326 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #6 From Roland McGrath 2004-09-13 19:02 -------
*** Bug 382 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #7 From Roland McGrath 2004-09-15 00:37 -------
*** Bug 385 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #8 From David Daney 2004-09-15 00:48 -------
What about build errors that I do understand and have patches for and that are
real errors in glibc?

I guess that they go here also.

------- Additional Comment #9 From Roland McGrath 2004-09-15 01:52 -------
Reports about build issues of any kind do not belong in bugzilla.
If you have bona fide issues and fixes for them, we welcome your direct
participation in glibc development by using the public development mailing lists.
Any bona fide build issue is a platform-specific problem on a platform whose
maintainer has not updated the code recently, or whose build environment does
not have the same problems you encountered.  The details need to be taken up
with the architecture's maintainer, who will submit appropriate fixes for inclusion.

------- Additional Comment #10 From Roland McGrath 2004-09-23 02:22 -------
*** Bug 398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #11 From duncan_roe@acslink.net.au 2004-09-23 14:36 -------
Subject: Re:  Do not report build errors in bugzilla!

Hi Mark,

I'm a Slackware afficinado myself, having used it for 11 years: reckon it's
great!!

Take a look at bug 326

Ok it just happens that Richard Stallman is giving a presentation in my home
town (Melbourne Australia) on 7/10 and I plan to ask him to comment on the
attitude we are seeing from the glibc engineers.

I myself have had a few problems but then I have a dual Opteron and have yet to
build a gcc that will pass 'make check' - if you have anything that you think
should work I would be very happy to test it for you (or anyone else at
Slackware).

I submitted bugs 312, 313, 328, 329, 330, 331 & 332.
Rather a lot, I supose (cf Monty Python, "rat tart" :)

Cheers ... Duncan.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 04:48:12AM -0000, markkp at slackware dot com wrote:
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------- Additional Comment #12 From Ulrich Drepper 2004-09-26 12:46 -------
*** Bug 398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #13 From Jakub Jelinek 2004-09-26 16:16 -------
*** Bug 398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #14 From GOTO Masanori 2004-09-27 12:37 -------
*** Bug 90 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #15 From GOTO Masanori 2004-09-28 01:52 -------
*** Bug 235 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #16 From Andreas Jaeger 2004-12-13 14:34 -------
*** Bug 607 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #17 From Andreas Jaeger 2004-12-18 15:16 -------
*** Bug 593 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #18 From Andreas Jaeger 2005-01-18 08:27 -------
*** Bug 675 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #19 From GOTO Masanori 2005-02-14 12:11 -------
*** Bug 701 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #20 From Roland McGrath 2005-02-25 00:54 -------
*** Bug 764 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #21 From Roland McGrath 2005-03-03 00:34 -------
*** Bug 721 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #22 From Jakub Jelinek 2005-03-24 10:45 -------
*** Bug 802 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #23 From Roland McGrath 2005-04-07 20:19 -------
*** Bug 833 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #24 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-04-14 21:26 -------
*** Bug 849 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #25 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-04-14 21:27 -------
*** Bug 839 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #26 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-04-17 16:38 -------
*** Bug 856 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #27 From Roland McGrath 2005-07-19 03:44 -------
*** Bug 1045 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #28 From Roland McGrath 2005-07-19 03:45 -------
*** Bug 631 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #29 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-09-27 15:27 -------
*** Bug 1071 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #30 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-09-28 17:34 -------
*** Bug 1316 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #31 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-10-15 19:45 -------
*** Bug 1394 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #32 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-10-24 14:07 -------
*** Bug 1534 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #33 From Ulrich Drepper 2005-11-06 20:59 -------
*** Bug 1815 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #34 From Roland McGrath 2006-01-08 03:27 -------
*** Bug 2124 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #35 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-01-19 17:09 -------
*** Bug 2179 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #36 From Roland McGrath 2006-01-25 18:53 -------
*** Bug 2206 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #37 From Perttu Halonen 2006-03-02 19:53 -------
*** Bug 2410 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #38 From Jon Grosshart 2006-03-05 17:20 -------
Hey guys... If your finding yourself at this page after doing a 'make check' on
glibc, I thought I'd share some expierences with you instead of saying IT WORKS
FOR ME. Yes, the maintainers have more pressing bussiness at hand besides being
our personal tech support, but still... A good percentage of people seeking help
are coming from the LFS/DIY circle and we can't use the distributors binary of
glibc... WE ARE THE DISTRIBUTORS! :-)

Over the past couple years, I've come to realize one important factor about
building glibc. It is HIGHLY DEPENDENT upon your running host kernel (among
other things). I often expierence nptl test failures when running a 2.6 kernel
built with gcc-3.3.x (slackintosh/slackware). Upgrade your gcc to 3.4.5 and
recompile a new kernel on the host and the nptl test errors will more than
likely dissapear. How Pat avoids these problems, I'm still not sure of.

If you find yourself getting certain posix errors, I've found that some of these
are due to not having a correctly populated /dev directory. Since alot of us are
chrooting into an environment that has no working udev yet, run the MAKEDEV
script and alot of these errors will also dissappear.

I also get some "Time out" errors on occassion after a long uptime on an
old/slow processor / limited memory machine. It COULD be helpfull to clear out
your ps list or simpily reboot and try again. Glibc can be finicky when it comes
to the host environment in general, is my main point. Don't underestimate the
impact of your host when you think you are isolated in chroot.

With a little perseverance, googling skill and competence on your part, you can
whittle down your glibc check errors to just the standard "posix/annexc.out
Error 1 (ignored)" error.

Good luck.

------- Additional Comment #39 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-04-02 17:43 -------
*** Bug 2487 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #40 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-04-09 04:44 -------
*** Bug 2529 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #41 From Dwayne Grant McConnell 2006-05-17 18:41 -------
*** Bug 2672 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #42 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-05-24 14:52 -------
*** Bug 2694 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #43 From Jakub Jelinek 2006-06-19 11:39 -------
*** Bug 849 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #44 From Alan Hourihane 2006-06-19 11:42 -------
I'd appreciate not adding me as a CC back on this Jakub.

------- Additional Comment #45 From Andreas Jaeger 2006-07-10 09:34 -------
*** Bug 2887 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #46 From Andreas Jaeger 2006-07-10 09:35 -------
*** Bug 2894 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #47 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-07-30 20:47 -------
*** Bug 2982 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #48 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-08-03 08:18 -------
*** Bug 2929 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #49 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-08-03 16:08 -------
*** Bug 2996 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #50 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-08-03 18:43 -------
*** Bug 2175 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #51 From Andrew Pinski 2006-08-04 03:00 -------
I think the overall of this bug is not a good one. Witness PR 2672 which was just found to be a GCC bug 
today but it was reported to glibc back in May.  Can people don't close the bugs without at least asking 
what version of GCC/binutils they are using?  GCC gets build failure bugs all the time and we don't close 
them as a dup of one bug saying don't report build failures.  In fact the opposite happens, usually it is 
obviously what is wrong and other times it is not so.  If glibc does not care about the quality of the 
building of glibc, well it looks that way with this mass closing of bug reports without actually looking into 
them.

------- Additional Comment #52 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-08-12 20:28 -------
*** Bug 2873 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #53 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-10-16 10:44 -------
*** Bug 3368 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #54 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-10-20 14:42 -------
*** Bug 3403 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #55 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-11-11 02:40 -------
*** Bug 3505 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #56 From Nadav 2006-11-11 09:03 -------
How do I remove myself from getting update for this "bug" to my mail?????

------- Additional Comment #57 From Ulrich Drepper 2006-12-29 22:18 -------
*** Bug 3817 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #58 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-01-22 06:22 -------
*** Bug 3900 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #59 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-02-07 09:13 -------
*** Bug 3989 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #60 From Dan 2007-02-07 10:17 -------
Kindly then where does one discuss build errors then??  Can a link to such be
provided in this thread?

I am also wondering if there is some bug in ldd 2.4 when it comes to relinking
glibc 2.4 again....as I have already successfully compiled and installed it
migrating from an earlier version of glibc.  Though contemplating it one would
think that the developers would have been in a position to test this
extensively.  I don't feel like upgrading to the latest CVS at this time.


------- Additional Comment #61 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-02-10 17:36 -------
*** Bug 4021 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #62 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-02-11 19:25 -------
*** Bug 4025 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #63 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-03-06 19:29 -------
*** Bug 4139 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #64 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-03-07 00:13 -------
*** Bug 2894 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #65 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-03-13 13:49 -------
*** Bug 4182 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #66 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-05-04 14:00 -------
*** Bug 4461 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #67 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-07-07 16:36 -------
*** Bug 4750 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #68 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-11-12 16:21 -------
*** Bug 5313 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #69 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-11-28 22:12 -------
*** Bug 5425 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #70 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-12-10 02:25 -------
*** Bug 5462 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #71 From Ulrich Drepper 2007-12-20 16:13 -------
*** Bug 5515 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #72 From Ulrich Drepper 2008-02-10 11:22 -------
*** Bug 5752 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #73 From Dick Rock 2008-02-10 18:49 -------
Subject: Re:  Do not report build errors in bugzilla!

The glibc library did not build nor did it recognize
the machine.
Now, How do I correct this?

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------- Additional Comment #74 From Dick Rock 2008-02-10 18:51 -------
Subject: Fwd:  Do not report build errors in bugzilla!

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------- Additional Comments From moleque_da_rua at yahoo dot com  2008-02-10 18:49 -------
Subject: Re:  Do not report build errors in bugzilla!

The glibc library did not build nor did it recognize
the machine.
Now, How do I correct this?

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------- Additional Comment #75 From Ulrich Drepper 2008-04-14 14:04 -------
*** Bug 6398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #76 From Ulrich Drepper 2008-05-25 16:55 -------
*** Bug 6560 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #77 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-04-11 08:55 -------
*** Bug 10060 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #78 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-04-11 17:36 -------
*** Bug 10062 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #79 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-07-17 06:00 -------
*** Bug 10375 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #80 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-07-30 05:29 -------
*** Bug 10463 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #81 From Andreas Jaeger 2009-07-30 11:03 -------
*** Bug 10464 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #82 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-07-31 18:15 -------
*** Bug 10470 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #83 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-10-30 06:23 -------
*** Bug 10369 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #84 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-11-02 17:41 -------
*** Bug 2894 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #85 From Petr Baudis 2009-11-11 21:58 -------
*** Bug 10941 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #86 From Andreas Schwab 2009-11-12 15:47 -------
*** Bug 10941 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #87 From Ulrich Drepper 2009-11-13 17:11 -------
*** Bug 10954 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

------- Additional Comment #88 From TGP1994 2009-11-27 16:13 -------
Maintainers and developers, I bet you are wondering why you end up having to
close so many open bogus bugs that are related to build errors. That's because
there does not appear to be a single guide instructing us how to fix these
problems. People, this issue/confusion isn't going to fix its self, that's for
sure. Someone needs to step up here and help us out.

------- Additional Comment #89 From Sergei Steshenko 2009-11-27 16:51 -------
(In reply to comment #88)
> Maintainers and developers, I bet you are wondering why you end up having to
> close so many open bogus bugs that are related to build errors. That's because
> there does not appear to be a single guide instructing us how to fix these
> problems. People, this issue/confusion isn't going to fix its self, that's for
> sure. Someone needs to step up here and help us out.

No, it's just the main developer's attitude - it's impossible for him to
acknowledge that build system has bugs.

By the way, typical closure of WORKSFORME is often a plain lie - as I already wrote.

This is because to make such claim the developer needs to run build in end
user's environment - in my case I have a "one button" tool which builds
literally hundreds of targets. But the developer hasn't even asked for the tool.

Another issue - I managed to build 'glibc-2.9', but using _exactly_ the same
settings I can't build 'glibc-2.10.1', so it's a clear regression. I need to
find time to file this bug.

And I looked into the build system, and I already know there is at least a
couple of things that are screwed up, and I even know places in the build code
where they are screwed up - again, I need to find time to file these bugs.


FWIW, I will absolutely _never_ recommend sourceware/RedHat as service provider
to anybody - my dealing with this infamous bug #333 will be a clearly documented
example why.

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